I did too.  I hope both herand Obama's  supporters take it to heart; we all need to let go of the negative stuff said on both sides during the campaign and support our nominee:  Senator Barack Obama.

I think that was my favorite part of the whole speech.  Still I can't help but to look back. :(

Yes, I am sure that Senator McCain's health plan would be so much more like Hillary's.

We lost.

and then, see if he still gets elected, then although people like me wont be happy, at least we will not be accusing him of lying. What he needs to do is explain that his healthcare plan is for normal people, people who aren't sick, and that it is too expensive to cover sick people who are not in a plan right now. They will be able to buy the alternative coverage, and the insurance companies will have to quote them a price (when before they would have simply said 'no, we are not interested in your business') So, under under Obama they will be forced to quote them what they consider to be a 'fair price' but that price will be much more than most of them - the ones who aren't wealthy basically - can afford. It will be like the states that basically already do that. Also, many companies probably will stop writing individual policies, as they wont want to be known for charging obscene rates.

The reality is that medical costs are very high. That is largely because of corporate/government policy. We are constantly signing these trade agreements that tie our hands in these matters. For example, that is why buying drugs from overseas pharmacies remains technically illegal. Those companies have intellectual property and they have often paid millions of dollars for the rights to this market. They charge Americans more because the government has been letting them get away with it for a long time. For that reason, many of the proposals being floted by both Obama and McCain to lower healthcare costs are illegal, so they wont be able to be implemented. They are violations of free trade agreements. If Obama went to Americans and said well, NAFTA says that we can't start our own insurance company, or force larger companies to insure their employees because   that is discriminatory and penalizes companies that are more likely to have international investors, or 'we cant try to negotiate down the price of drugs because it is prohibited' etc. WE NEED TO RENEGOTIATE NAFTA and that is going to take years.. we just finished getting them to implement these rules elsewhere, and people died because they could not afford drugs they needed there, so we would look pretty selfish'

then people would understand..

His other alternatve is to force companies toprice insurance

I think Obama will give Hillary the reigns on healthcare reform.

Here is what he said in his victory speech in Minnesota:

And you can rest assured that when we finally win the battle for universal health care in this country, she (Hillary Clinton) will be central to that victory.

Mojo'ed for keeping the issue alive and changing your previous tagline. Senator Obama will fight for the Universal healthcare we all so desperately need. I know it. I know how important it is and it's not anything any of my patients or anyone really has the luxury of ignoring. I don't believe that we are fighting Senator Obama. Right now McCain is trying to use the issue to try to restore his pathetic history of really poor fiscal management, something which this country can not tolerate any more years of. He's using the same excuse to deny our veterans and those in the service what should be a right they have earned. I've been to Washington several times to tell both the House and Senate about our needs. Got a lot of doors shut pretty rudely in our faces by some Republicans. Got very supportive and encouraging responses from many Democrats, especially Senators Obama and Clinton. We just need a few more Senate and House members. We need to do that together. It will happen.

uprated.

i don't agree with saying that obama is lying, but other than that, genuine disagreements over substantive policy issues seem fair to me.

Hey, hate Obama all you want. I'm pleased that you can dislike him (or that's what I'm assuming) and still vote for him and work for him.

I've decided that the reason I'm a Democrat, even though I often feel like I'm really far to the left of the mainstream views of the party, is because I would never vote Republican, and I think third parties get the candidate least ideologically like them elected. And I don't want that. So Democrat is my only choice, whether I like the candidate or not.

to being surprised.  

I will vote, but I will not work for him  nor will the Democrats be getting any more of my money.

If you think it's all bullshit, I'd ask you to look at what Obama has already done in just four days since he became the presumptive nominee.

He has instructed the DNC to stop accepting federal lobbyist and PAC contributions.

He has said that he will allow at least one member of the press into every fundraising event, even "private" ones.

...and just to note, he also backed Joe Lieberman into a corner in the Senate and let him know his days are numbered.

Obama is not just talking about changing the way politics are done, he is putting it into action.

A major reason I supported Obama early on was his commitment to accountability and transparency in government (the other reason was his Iraq/Iran stance).

Too bad I was so deluded by his bullshit, eh?

Oh, wait.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2008/s30 77.pdf

This is the Strengthening Transparency and Accountability in Fdeeral Spending Act of 2008 introduced this week by Obama and Coburn.

Behold leadership.

I won't, I can't argue with you on the issue of Congressional ineptitude.

Get the good work done dammit.

If we had a president who was out there every day making the strong case for the legislation, and putting pressure on Congress to pass it, then even some of the Republicans would be voting for it. Since we have a president who not only opposes it, but who threatens his own people with retribution if they vote for it...we get what we have now.

plus, even some Democrats thought the bill was a big mess, for reasons other than the global warming issue itself

the diary in my alternate guise, DCDemocrat.

NEVER.  dKos is dead to me, at least, forever.  off the bookmarks, off the feeds.  somethings are simply not forgivable.

I have no doubt nyceve was sincere but one only has to look at the comments in the speech threads to see nothing at DK has changed.   Hate still reigns and the orange is still rotten.  

First, I'm voting for Obama over McCain hands down. BUT dailykos lost me forever. Oh, and the diary you linked is filled with hate for us, and especially Alegre. It seems the people over there still don't get why we left(or were banned).

Now that our candidate is dead in the water after months of being unfavorably comapred to Satan, we can come back into open arms.

No thanks!

I'm sure that speech made McSame soil his depends. It was a magnificent speech

Linfar, you have no idea how happy I am to see what you wrote!!  Thanks for supporting Obama.  If you can bring half of the energy to Obama that you did for Clinton, wow, this will be a force to be reckoned with.

I agree wholeheartedly.  A symbolic rec for your comment, linfar.  

It was a wonderful speech, hitting all the right notes.  And as an Obama supporter, one could not ask for a more complete, ringing endorsement than that presented by Senator Clinton.

Yes, there have been some sharp debates and bitter disagreements.  Yes, it has been a long, arduous, grueling campaign.  But in spite of what some people (including, sadly, a number at dkos) have said, Hillary Clinton is not a "republican-lite".  She is a Democrat through and through, and her ideals and goals are the same as those shared by other Dems.  Our differences are few, our agreements are many.

I never thought Hillary would "take this to the convention".  She is too devoted to her causes to harm her party for personal spite.  As Democrats, we have much to achieve, and now we start to move forward.

I understand that a number of devoted supporters of Hillary will need some time to accept that, although it was an historic run, her campaign has fallen just short.  That is likely made worse by the fact that she was the frontrunner back in early 2007 and at the time her victory seemed assured.  For at least some of her supporters, it's like seeing a dream you nurtured and which seemed so close to being reality die beofre your eyes.  That takes time to recover from, and even a great speech from Hillary won't be enough to heal those wounds immediately.

But the fact of the matter is that the Obama campaign ran a remarkable race as well, and his nomination is historic in its own right, and on almost all major issues both Barack and Hillary are in agreement.  And after 8 long years of watching our country being methodically destroyed from the inside out by ideologues, we have the opportunity to get back on the right track.

This is our time.  This is our opportunity.  For the first time on over 30 years, government will not be demonized and treated as the problem rather than part of the solution.  

Together, we can make this country better, we can undo the damage of the last 8 years and rebuild our nation here and our standing throughout the world.  We can reverse the decline in median income and strengthen the middle class.

So, to all Hillary supporters, take your time, catch your breath, reflect on the successes of your candidate, and continue to advocate for your causes.  We'll be waiting to take you in with open arms, because your goals are ours.

And they most definitely are NOT John McCain's.

Linfar,

as much as I loved your diaries, I'd just as much like it if you kept you mouth shut for a while while everyone is trying to deal with this situation.

If you can flip-flot from being passionately for one candidate to being passionate to the opposition candidate within 24 hours, that's just great - for you - but not for the rest of us who are a bit more dedicated than switching on a dime.

I have been pleading with people to give Clinton people some time to work through their emotions.  I frankly have my own feelings of disappointment and frustration, but there is a job to be done, and we need to put our enmity with Obama people behind us.   Things like this require work.  We change our feeling by acting our way into them.

I also am very pragmatic.  I recognized a couple of months ago that our dream was not going to happen.  I thought a note of unreality was creeping into much of what my fellow Clintonistas were saying and doing.

I probably have come farther in my grieving process, because I allowed it to start sooner.  If the race were starting again fresh today, I still would be with Hillary.  But the fact of the matter is that Hillary is not in this race.  It is between McCain and Obama now.  No one else is going to be elected president save one of these two men.  That is the choice.